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Jim O'Donnell's avatar

It is frustrating, but not surprising, to hear this about the off-road vehicle lobby. Between 2005 and 2010 I participated in a quarterly discussion group between New Mexico environmentalist and off-road vehicle users that was intended to find some common ground and develop some general working standards we could agree on for off-road vehicles on public lands.

I found it to be an absolutely frustrating process, and it had me ripping my hair out. Here were a group of conservationist willing to compromise, and we were basically met with the run around and a bunch of head games. At the end of the day, off-road vehicle users, were not willing to compromise. In fact, numerous times, participants flat out told me that they should have the right to go wherever they want and do whatever they want with their off-road vehicles. Any sort of restrictions at all, impinged on their freedom they claimed.

Which goes to show, these are just the type of people that need to be heavily regulated. Since they are unwilling to compromise and work for the common good, they need to be regulated.

Now, while there are certain off road vehicle users that are more reasonable, I find that by far the majority of off-road vehicle users, and the off-road vehicle culture in general is extraordinarily self-righteous, selfish and uncompromising.

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Scott Berry's avatar

I too continue to be puzzled by what appears to be total intransigence on the part of the off-road promotion organizations. The current Labyrinth Canyon issue is a good example, 100 miles closed, 800+ miles open to ORV's. In a nutshell, road density is directly related to the number of species that can survive in an area. More roads, fewer species. So the demand that there be no limits whatsoever on ORV use reflects the view that the species just don't count in any significant way. The only thing that counts is a users "personal pleasure and enjoyment". This level of self interest would is expected in a 2-year old, but means catastrophe for the natural world. Maybe I'm naive, but I think its likely that the ORV promotional groups don't fairly represent the mass of ORV users who understand the need for reasonable rules, any more that the NRA represents the views of every gun owner in the nation.

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